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Professor Eugene Volokh of UCLA at the Volokh Conspiracy:
[The Clerkship Notification Blog] is a clearing house for applicants, clerks, and others to post information about which judges are interviewing, have hired, and the like. Sounds like a useful resource ....
David Lat at Above the Law:
If you're in the hunt for a judicial clerkship, whether state or federal, here's a great website that you should be aware of ....
University of Illinois College of Law Professor Lawrence B. Solum at the Legal Theory Blog:
The Clerkship Notification Blog provides a clearinghouse for information about judicial clerkships--which judges have picked and filled their slots and which judges still have open positions. This information is quite important to
the efficient functioning of the process.
[The Clerkship Notification Blog] is a clearing house for applicants, clerks, and others to post information about which judges are interviewing, have hired, and the like. Sounds like a useful resource ....
David Lat at Above the Law:
If you're in the hunt for a judicial clerkship, whether state or federal, here's a great website that you should be aware of ....
University of Illinois College of Law Professor Lawrence B. Solum at the Legal Theory Blog:
The Clerkship Notification Blog provides a clearinghouse for information about judicial clerkships--which judges have picked and filled their slots and which judges still have open positions. This information is quite important to
the efficient functioning of the process.
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112 comments:
Judge Gorsuch is interviewing and has hired at least one.
From which school, by the way?
Michigan
Kelly is interviewing.
Murphy hired a Wash. U. grad.
Tymkovich has reportedly finished hiring.
Tymkovich and McWilliams are listed as having filled their positions on OSCAR.
Does McConnell follow the plan?
Tacha is done.
McConnell follows the plan. Murphy is done.
Murphy's second hire was from Univ. of New Mexico
How could Tacha be done if she's not accepting applications until September 4?
Tacha only hired one clerk this year, an alum, don't know from where. See FLCIS.
Any word from Judge Kelly or Hartz?
How can a judge hire an alum, but you don't know where from? If they hire an alum, doesn't that mean they've hired someone who's graduating from the same school as the judge? Do you mean you don't know where the judge went to school?
Tacha went to Michigan, by the way. If she hired an alum, I assume that means the new hire is from Michigan.
"An alum" just means someone who is a law school graduate (from any school) and therefore not subject to the hiring plan.
I think Tacha's hire was from Univ. of Kansas but I am not 100% sure about that.
Any word on Briscoe?
Judge Kelly is hiring now; at least one has been hired (from Notre Dame). Judge Hartz is interviewing.
Why would the term "alum" indicate someone who went to the same school as the judge? I've never heard it used that way, and would have assumed it just means someone who has already graduated law school as opposed to a 3L
6:17 PM - To answer your question, I think that students who attend lower-to-bottom tiered law schools learn from their career services office or other sources that their best (perhaps only) shot at getting a federal clerkship is applying to a judge who went to their school and trying to work that networking angle. So, when students at lower ranked law schools hear a judge hired an "alum," that's what might be going through their heads. I don't know if that was the case with the initial poster, but I can see how someone could think that.
Tacha's hire is definitely from the Univ. of KS, and is not an alum.
In other words, Tacha doesn't follow the plan. Wouldn't this process be easier if the judges would tell you upfront whether or not they follow the plan? And wouldn't it be more fair if judges were required to follow the plan?
Kelly hired another (from Fordham), but it appears he still has one spot open because he still has interviews scheduled.
How do you propose to "require" federal judges to follow the hiring plan? What are you going to do, fire them?
Well, firing them certainly isn't an option, but couldn't the plan be made law through the legislative process? And couldn't whoever writes the paychecks hold the judges accountable for hiring within the plan? And if they didn't, could they be sued, or would they have immunity? I think the point the previous poster was trying to get across is that the process isn't fair when people who play by the rules miss out when judges hire early or other would-be clerks apply early. In the end, it makes the entire judicial system (and all lawyers by implication) look bad.
I think it's unlikely that the optimal amount of adherence to the Plan is either 100% or zero. For very competitive applicants, the Plan operates as a cartel for the benefit of the D.C. Circuit (and the 2d Circuit) by forcing rational applicants to maximize their opportunities by interviewing only in DC or New York on "the day." Because I see no benefit (except to the judges of those courts) to concentrating those applicants in those markets, I cannot agree with the posters who think adherence to the Plan should be mandatory.
But, of course, the Plan has its merits. For most judges (and most potential clerks), it operates as a predictable system of rules that minimizes the race-to-the-bottom effect of having a free-for-all. We don't want 1Ls having to compete for clerkships. I also think it's good that most very selective judges adhere to the Plan. But if a few judges decide the system is rigged against them (and it assuredly is) and want to make sure some great talent gets down to their neck of the woods, that really inures to the benefit of everyone. My point is that a little play in the joints is a good thing.
Sorry, but there's nothing rational about picking the Second over the Ninth. Unless you enjoy making less money (post-tax), living in an apartment half the size, enduring crappy weather, and dodging the trash that they just throw out on the street--all for the same prestige.
I hear Ebel is doing some telephone screening pre-interviews.
If you think that it would be constitutional to require judges to follow the plan, you shouldn't be applying for a clerkship.
Ebel has hired at least one.
Do you know from which school and whether that person was an alum or a rising 3L?
To 314: I think the poster's point was that because many of the 2d Circuit's judges are in the same city, it's possible to interview with more judges in a short period of time than it is in the Ninth Circuit.
Hartz hired a Hastings 3L.
Judge Kelly is finished. His third hire was from Catholic University.
Notre Dame, Fordham, and Catholic... guess all that studying in undergrad and those LSAT classes were somewhat of a waste...
Judge Kelly is an alum of both Notre Dame and Fordham, and Catholic has always been over-represented with R judges.
Have Henry or Lucero begun to interview?
1:59: Yes, because God forbid some 3Ls who don't go to HYS get to work for a federal appeals judge. The agony!
Good point. HYS students do not have a monopoly on this process. Is it such a travesty that someone like myself who did not have the opportunity to attend a top 10 school, but worked hard at a lower ranked school, has the opportunity to clerk for the COA to the exclusion of some poor HYS grad? Give me a break! Why don't you go cry in your daddy's thirty-year old Scotch. I'm sure he'll get you a nice job at Skadden, and besides, maybe they'll care about your stupid LSAT score.
Henry and Holmes are interviewing.
Yes, those poor HYS grads who worked hard and achieved good grades and academic records in undergrad.
Yes, because nobody except HYS grads "work hard and achieve good grades and academic records in undergrad." I hear the violins playing now...
Let's have a moment of silence for that poor HYS student who lost a clerkship to someone who went to a lower ranked school. Now he'll have to start networking at the country club to find a suitable position at some Wall Street firm. Boo hoo. Do you HYS kids seriously think you're the only ones who worked hard in undergrad? Do you think you're the only law students qualified to work for a federal judge? Well, all I can say is this: In your face HYS!
Furthermore, do you know that most federal judges didn't even go to HYS themselves? Get over it. Nobody is feeling sorry for you.
Tacha's FLCIS listing has been updated and now indicates that one position is open due to "changed circumstances."
Any 10th Circuit Judge notorious for exploding offers or strange interviewing techniques?
Has Ebel hired another?
Any news on Henry and Holmes?
Hope this inspires you - I went to a FOURTH tier law school and obtained a federal district court clerkship and recently accepted an offer on a federal appeals court. Oh no! I am so sorry, elitists of the world.
Henry has hired one.
Holmes has hired one.
Hartz has hired a Northwestern grad.
From where did Holmes and Henry hire?
Holmes hired an Oklahoma grad who's doing a federal district clerkship right now.
Henry has hired an OU 3L
Does Henry not follow the plan?
Henry is done.
Hartz hired one from Penn.
Gorsuch sent out letter saying he will interview later in september, presumably as per plan.
McConnell hired a Yale grad
McConnell has already hired a grad from Yale
Any calls for interviews today?
Any news on Judge Briscoe?
Lucero is interviewing.
Holmes is calling for Sep 20 & 21 interviews.
Lucero got a gw grad
Ebel has two now, with only one spot left (source: FLCIS).
What about O'Brien?
Lucero hired a Yale 3L
Anyone hear from Seymour?
Briscoe interviewed at least a few candidates this week...
Gorsuch hired an HLS 3L.
Gorusch also hired a Northwestern 3L
is lucero done?
Seymour is interviewing.
I would think twice about a clerkship with Briscoe.
A good friend of mine clerked for Briscoe and thought she was great. Unless you have specific information and a source, quit spreading disinformation. You are probably hoping to get an offer and trying to persuade someone to reject theirs.
Gorsuch is done.
9:33,
I definitely have first-hand experience, and my impressions were corroborated by others with even more experience than myself, all without me prompting them.
Your friend's experience just shows that there are exceptions to every rule, I suppose.
And I have absolutely no desire to clerk for JB; you have quite the imagination.
Lucero is done
Any news on Tacha's remaining opening?
Lucero is done. Columbia, GWU, Yale and BC
Ebel is done.
Is McConnell done?
McConnell is done: Yale grad, Harvard, Penn, and Pepperdine
Has Judge Holmes made any offers?
Other than the offer he made several weeks ago to the Oklahoma grad who is currently clerking for a district court.
Tacha is done. Kansas and Duke.
Has any judge in this circuit hired a William and Mary grad?
Holmes made an offer on Sep 20th that wasn't accepted.
Holloway sent a letter implying that he has not yet considered applications.
What is going on with Judge Holmes?
He now has an opening for a two-year term position, with no plans to hire until the end of December. Huh?
I know this for a fact. None of the judges on the Tenth Circuit, excepting Judge McConnell, strictly follow the Hiring Plan. If you want to clerk on the Tenth, apply early.
I think Judge Holmes followed the Plan.
Judges Holmes does NOT follow the plan.
He only follows the plan for those who applied to his chambers via Oscar.
Applicants who sent in early paper applications were interviewed before the start of the plan.
I have an interview with Judge Briscoe next week (week of Nov. 5), so she is still hiring. Her email said she had been "delayed in [her] interviewing process."
Hartz hires early. And offers usually expire quickly.
October 30, 2007 9:05 PM, thanks for the info on Judge Briscoe. Please post again if you find out anything more about how many she's interviewing or if you receive an offer. By the way, do you have any prior clerking experience? I heard she likes to hire experienced clerks.
11/2 12:15 PM. No, I do not have prior clerking experience. I know at least one of her current clerks had no prior clerking experience, so she may just like, but not require, prior clerking experience. No offer/reject yet. Will let you know.
I also interviewed with Judge Briscoe earlier this week. As with 11/9 3:03 PM, I do not have any prior clerkship experience. And, as with 11/9 3:03 PM, I have not yet received an offer or rejection. During the interview, Judge Briscoe informed me that she hopes to make her hiring decision by Thanksgiving.
I know Briscoe was just recently interviewing. Has anyone heard back from this set of interviews?
11/13 10:48AM. Not yet.
I see on OSCAR that Briscoe's spots are filled. Anyone know where she hired from?
Is O'Brien hiring? Seems so from FLCIS..
Spoke with chambers this morning, O'Brien is not hiring.
Any word on Holloway in OK?
This may be a very stupid question, but how do people know what schools new hires are from?
Word of mouth, friends in that judge's chambers, school clerkship listserves, etc. The moral is that word travels.
Holloway is finished.
oscar shows a spot w/ seymour, any info?
Re: School hires.
There is a website called "Law Clerk Addict," I believe. It breaks down most of the hires by circuit, judge and school. While not perfect, it is good enough to provide a rough statistical sample.
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